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Glen: Umm. You threw me with the use of the word “friend.”

Virginia: Well, if they're not friends, I don't much care about them, do you?

Glen: The problem is, I've not met them.

Virginia: Oh, you haven't met them. OK. So this is a fantasy.

Glen: What's happening in the community is through letters to the editor, and through all kinds of actions that they have taken on behalf and against other people, I know they're there. I've not personally encountered them yet.

Virginia: All right. OK. So at this moment, I hear what you're saying, you haven't encountered them yet. Do you expect to? (Glen: Yes.) All right. OK. You are talking about a context—which is what I now call the Hitler context: that there's a group of people who decide who shall live and who shall die. That's Hitler—I don't waste any time; I just simply say, “Well, you have something with Hitler.” But isn't that something—for people to decide who shall live and who shall die? All right, so I just make the observation, and they can do with it what they want.

All right, now there are many ways to do that. Because I could get killed that way. I could really get killed that way. Because remember when I was saying that one of the first things I learned was the difference between the verbal and the nonverbal. And that I can carry a tone in my voice that you'll want to kill me. I can carry a tone in my voice that you'll pity me; carry a tone in my voice in which you think I'm boring as all get-out; carry another tone in which I disrupt your central cortex. I can do another one in which you will feel connected with me, and I can talk about the same content. And one of the things that gets very hard, is that when we encounter people who are so rabid on things—but let's just try something. All right. You give me a make-believe of somebody you expect to meet in your community. Give him a name. And you're going to be that person.

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