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Virginia: Where did you get all this? Have you been down there? Has you wife been there by any chance? (laughter) Where do you get it?
Glen: No. We know one of the women that goes to our church that has a friend that went down there, and she talked to the counselors that are down there, and she's not with her husband anymore. They told her that she needed to get out.
Virginia: Was that the one where the husband beat her up and cut off one leg? (Glen: No.) Not that one. There was another one like that. He just beat her up and she didn't lose either leg. Was that the one?
Glen: Well, he was just being a husband. That "beat her up" was her story, you know. That wasn't really what happened; that was just her side of it. They never did talk to him to find out what his version of it was.
Virginia: You know, I see that you've got a recommendation here. And the recommendation is that you want fairness all the way, is what I hear you say. You know what would be good—I don't know if you can do it—but what would really be good— Could you find that man, and maybe we would have a chance to talk to him? Because, you know, fairness all the way is what you're talking about, isn't it?
Glenn: I sure think there ought to be fairness all the way, yeah. (applause)
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