Steve: —normal sound?
Woman: Yeah, or like a merry-go-round. You know, its... like now its fun.
Steve: Now its fun. (Woman: Yeah.) OK. Thats a difference, huh?
Woman: (laughs) Yes!
Steve: OK, do you see it out there, about where Keith was? Hes gone now.
Woman: Umhm. Kind of behind Nelson and Clinton.
Steve: Behind Nelson. OK, great. (Woman: Yeah.) And you hear the sound changed already. And now what happens if you were to step into it? Briefly... (She moves her head in a small circle.)
Steve: Boy, it sure turns your head around, doesnt it? (Woman: Yeah.) Now come back out (laughter) or youll get dizzy. (to the group) Did you see her head going around?
Woman: It just... um... it doesnt... you know, its... I could get dizzy but it doesnt have the scary feeling to it, the off balance feeling and out of control feeling.
Steve: How about shame?
Woman: Um, well the same comments are being said that were shaming, but its like Im not reacting as though—
Steve: (to the group) Isnt that fairly obvious, just looking at her? Shes kind of smiling and shes talking about this like, No big deal.
Woman: You know, its kind of like I could say, No, up yours, you know.
Steve: There you go. OK. That looks real good to me. Now, at this point I want you to do something else. Now the shame is gone, right? (Woman: Umhm.) Now, keeping that picture over there, and I dont imagine you want to ever move it back, right? (Woman: No!) OK. Just keep it over there and now I want you to consider what was the standard that was not met in that situation.
Woman: Um, it had... OK. It had... do you want the content?